For the most part I believe waking and sleeping is the same effort. As I reflect on dreaming, I realize that maybe the same effort that’s involved in waking and sleeping can be a part of dreaming. We realize the place as the place is what is, single-pointed yet inclusive past what can be known. If we see our hands, or travel out of body, the effort is still only this?- my guess, since I can’t claim to have done either.
Just the occasional lucid dream. Sweet dreams!