
{"id":841,"date":"2019-07-18T12:40:00","date_gmt":"2019-07-18T12:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/?p=841"},"modified":"2021-03-01T12:06:54","modified_gmt":"2021-03-01T20:06:54","slug":"does-nonthinking-require-effort","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/?p=841","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Does Nonthinking Require Effort?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1398 alignright\" style=\"margin:0px 0px 20px 20px;\" src=\"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/Konocti-with-oleandar_DSCN5233.jpg\" alt=\"Konocti with foreground oleander\" width=\"180\" height=\"135\" \/>In his &#8220;Lancet of Seated Meditation&#8221; (&#8220;Shobo genzo zazen shin&#8221;), Dogen quotes a conversation:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Once, when the Great Master Hung-tao of Yueh shan was sitting in meditation , a monk asked him,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">What are you thinking, sitting there so fixedly?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">The master answered, &#8220;I&#8217;m thinking of not thinking.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">The monk asked, &#8220;How do you think of not thinking?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">The master answered, &#8220;Nonthinking.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a question that came up in an online discussion group:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">What is nonthinking? Is it something we do or is it something that happens when we cease to do? If it is something we do, does it require a touch of effort? Please assist me.<\/p>\n<p>My reply:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">In &#8220;Genjo Koan&#8221;, Dogen wrote: &#8220;When you find your way at this moment, practice occurs, actualizing the fundamental point.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">To &#8220;find your way at this moment&#8221; is to feel all things without exception engage with &#8220;your place where you are&#8221;.<sup>1<\/sup>\u00a0The feeling of each thing without exception engaging in support of &#8220;the place where you are&#8221; is &#8220;nonthinking&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">In his commentary on Hung-tao&#8217;s conversation, Dogen wrote:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">There is someone in nonthinking, and this someone maintains us.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">I wrote previously:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 80px;\">Once I find centrifugal force at the location of my awareness, I can find the appropriate counter from everything that surrounds the place of awareness, even things outside the range of my senses.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Things beyond the range of the senses are present in the length of my inhalation or exhalation, at the place where I am, as I find my way in this moment. If I am open to things outside the range of the senses as I comprehend the long or short of my current inhalation or exhalation, the elements of Gautama&#8217;s way of living unfold for me.<sup>2<\/sup><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Does nonthinking require effort? If so, I think it&#8217;s only the extension of the mind of compassion beyond what is sensed in all directions.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"font-size: 90%;\">\n<p><sup>1<\/sup> &#8220;Dogen&#8217;s Manuals of Zen Meditation&#8221;, Carl Bielefeldt, Document 3 &#8220;Lancet of Seated Meditation&#8221;, pg 188-189;<br \/>\n<sup>2<\/sup> &#8220;Your place where you are&#8221;, also &#8220;Genjo Koan&#8221;;<br \/>\n<sup>3<\/sup> See\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/zenmudra.com\/A-Natural-Mindfulness.pdf#page=12\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Old Habits<\/a>\u00a0for the sixteen.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In his &#8220;Lancet of Seated Meditation&#8221; (&#8220;Shobo genzo zazen shin&#8221;), Dogen quotes a conversation: Once, when the Great Master Hung-tao of Yueh shan was sitting in meditation , a monk asked him, What are you thinking, sitting there so fixedly? The master answered, &#8220;I&#8217;m thinking of not thinking.&#8221; The monk asked, &#8220;How do you think &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/?p=841\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;&#8220;Does Nonthinking Require Effort?&#8221;&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-841","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/841","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=841"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/841\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1399,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/841\/revisions\/1399"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=841"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=841"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=841"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}