
{"id":180,"date":"2011-12-25T08:10:27","date_gmt":"2011-12-25T08:10:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/?p=180"},"modified":"2021-03-01T12:06:57","modified_gmt":"2021-03-01T20:06:57","slug":"autogenic-training-and-nishijimas-sns-pns-balance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/?p=180","title":{"rendered":"Autogenic training and Nishijima&#8217;s SNS-PNS balance"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Element, thanks for the link on autogenic training:<\/p>\n<p>(<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Autogenic_training\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Autogenic_training<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Some great history there. I didn&#8217;t use the &#8220;warm&#8221; patter but I sure used the &#8220;arm is heavy&#8221;, etc. bit, for self-hypnosis in high school!<\/p>\n<p>Bloke, yer right, well-put, Nishijima doesn&#8217;t elaborate on how his understanding can be applied. Then again, we know that it&#8217;s not really possible to apply any understanding in practice; as the ancestor put it, it&#8217;s not that there&#8217;s no practice, it&#8217;s that practice is undefiled, meaning to me there can be no intent.<\/p>\n<p>Having said which, I wonder if the use of &#8220;warm&#8221; in autogenic training is intended to engage SNS- I read that SNS can constrict blood vessels, which would affect warm\/cold- whereas the &#8220;arm is heavy&#8221; in autogenic training is to engage PNS (PNS is responsible for &#8220;rest and digest&#8221; activities)?<\/p>\n<p>I have mentioned before that the mainstay of my practice, when such exists, is reciprocal innervation of agonist\/antagonist muscle pairs through activity associated with the occurrence of consciousness. Consciousness occurs in connection with sense organ and sense object, that is the Gautamid&#8217;s teaching (and the continuity of consciousness is illusory). There is impact associated with consciousness, and as a result of impact feeling, that&#8217;s also the Gautamid&#8217;s teaching. When the pleasant and painful enter back into the place of occurrence of consciousness, then the hypnogogic state becomes sufficient to sustain an awareness of reciprocal innervation- that&#8217;s the best explanation I have.<\/p>\n<p>I put it this way, with regard to Dogen&#8217;s &#8220;One sage clarified True Mind (Reality) when he saw peach blossoms and another realized the Way when he heard the sound of tile hitting a bamboo&#8221;- is it not consciousness, impact, and feeling that breathes at the sight of blossoms?<\/p>\n<p>That would be the two aspects of the autonomic nervous system attaining balance right there, impact and breath, through the place of occurrence of consciousness (with respect to the senses).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Element, thanks for the link on autogenic training: (http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Autogenic_training) Some great history there. I didn&#8217;t use the &#8220;warm&#8221; patter but I sure used the &#8220;arm is heavy&#8221;, etc. bit, for self-hypnosis in high school! Bloke, yer right, well-put, Nishijima doesn&#8217;t elaborate on how his understanding can be applied. Then again, we know that it&#8217;s not &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/?p=180\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Autogenic training and Nishijima&#8217;s SNS-PNS balance&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-180","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/180","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=180"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/180\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":181,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/180\/revisions\/181"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=180"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=180"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zenmudra.com\/zazen-notes\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=180"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}